Excerpt
This interview took place at his home in Coconut Grove, Florida, on December 22, 2006.
JDT: Joel, where were you born?
JSG: In Brooklyn, New York. Both of my parents were born and raised there. My father was in the practice of eye, ear, nose, and throat in Flatbush.
JDT: And your grandparents?
JSG: My mother's parents were from Ukraine. Her name was Umansky. The little town she came from-Uman-is still there. There are, of course, no Jews there now, but it was once a great Talmudic center. My father's parents were from Riga, Latvia-Prussian Jews. They would all have come to the United States by boat in the late 19th century. It's a great pity that I don't know more about my ancestry. I had only one living grandparent when I was a child-Fanny Umansky, who lived with us. I did not record and I cannot remember much of what she told us. She loved my father. Although she kept kosher, she would cook one of his favorites -bacon-once a month. She was a great cook. Probably how I got fat…
JDT: What language was spoken at home?
JSG: English. They saved Yiddish as their code language-for when they didn't want us kids to understand.
JDT: Were your parents religiously observant?
JSG: Not really. But my father was very knowledgeable. Later, when we were living in Orlando, Florida, the rabbi left town and, as president of the congregation, my father felt responsible to lead the Friday services-which he did! He had done a tremendous amount of reading to prepare for that. He also read about two or three nonreligious books a week in addition to practicing medicine. He also played the violin and flute. I like to think that I am like him in many ways.
JDT: Where did your father train?
JSG: He went to medical school at Columbia University. He started in ENT at Columbia and then he went to the University of Pennsylvania to study with a famous bronchoscopist named Jackson.
JDT: And where did he learn ophthalmology?
JSG: Mostly self-taught. I've looked at his ophthalmology textbooks and, judging from the heavy underlining, I think he learned a lot of it on his own. Some he learned as a preceptor in other people's practices.
JDT: How did the family get to Orlando?
JSG: We wound up there because my father was in the Medical Corps during the Second World War. Toward the end of the war, he was stationed at Camp Blanding in Starke, Florida, just outside Gainesville. When the war ended, my parents did not want to go back to Brooklyn.